saying something, be they democrat or republican, if they start out by saying the other party, tune them out. they are excuse makers. the reason we have brains so we can figure out how to do things. my mother used to say, do you have a brain? if you always have excuses you can wallow in the excuse and you don't really have to do anything. it's not conducive to success in any arena. >> sean: you are very well versed in politics. just a little analysis. why do you think the president plays politics this way? what is your analysis and what is your take on it? >> my take he comes from a background of a community organizer, what do community organizers do? they do the dis against them. he is very good. he is an expert at it, but i'm

not sure it works well when you are trying to lead a whole nation. >> sean: what do you think about going into the sequester, two hours away, a little more than two hours away. all the doom and gloom. is it good thing we're finally cutting some of the money from the government when we have all this debt? >> it's better than we cut something. with the scenario of doom and gloom than we continue to increase the debt and to destroy the possibilities for a bright future for our progeny. >> sean: we enjoy doing the hour some weeks ago. that is all the time we have left. doom and gloom, apocalypse the seals will be broken in two hours and 12 seconds. and a little luck and blessings from above we'll be back on monday. dana is in for greta. have a great weekend and we'll

see you monday. >> dana: tonight, march madness, new month, the financial crisis, a possible government shutdown. take a look. >> we are watching master terful demagoguery. >> none of this is necessary. >> i am not a dictator, i'm the president. >> i can't tell john boehner, i can't tell the secret service to close the door and tell boehner not to leave. he walks out on me. he is mentioning that with much greater frequency. >> it is happening because a choice that republicans have made. >> make no mistake about it, it's political gambling on the future of our economy. >> we will get through this. this is not going to be an apocalypse. >> i've never seen a lack of leadership and truth telling

emanating from our commander in chief. >> this president stands up and he enjoys, folks, reciting the kind of pain americans are going to kneel. >> i am not a dictator. i'm the president. >> house has laid out a plan to avoid the sequester. i am hoping that the senate would act. >> we know that obama got everything he wanted, tax increases and got the sequester. he still wants to blame the republicans for it. >> it's happening because a choice republicans have made. >> he got everything he wants. the republicans are doing all this dirty mean stuff. >> dana: let's get start. i'm dana perino in for greta van susteren. it's official, $58 billion in across the board cuts will start taking effect. rick santorum accusing the president of manipulating the process in a ruthless way to scare the american people. senator, you are coming to us from charleston, south carolina,

one of my favorite cities in all the world. you don't disagree with the amount of cuts. you disagree with how they've gone about it, is that right? >> i disagree with several things. number worlg, it's a pittance compared to what we're going to have to get this fiscal house in order in washington, d.c. i disagree with the fact they are taking half the cuts out of 16% of the budget which is the defense department which has had half a trillion in cuts taken from it couple years ago through this president. so for that piece of the budget, which i think most americans is the most important thing the federal government does, it's the indispensable thing. it leaves two-thirds of the budget, entitlements alone. for the president to go out and manipulate the american public

by conjuring up all these horrific images. i'm surprised the lights are still on in the studio compared to what the president was suggesting was going to happen. >> dana: it does seem if this were a game of poker that the white house overplayed its hand. do you think they are feeling that way tonight at the white house? >> all i can tell you, i saw the president's press conference today. he did not look like a confident guy. he was back-pedaling from his statements. i think he did overstate the case. the american public is simply not going to see the things he was predicting as he stood in front of our troops. he also could avoid it. this is the other thing that is so disheartening about this president's leadership. he could avoid all the painful things by working with congress and simply allocating resources and agree to allocate them where we don't need to spend this money.

that is common sense leadership. that is working together. the president has shown no indication of doing so. he seems to be fixated on to demonize republicans and force more of his policies that are destroying our economy. >> dana: i felt that you had a good pulse on the american people and how they were looking outside the beltway perspective, outside of new york. both parties are trying to blame one another, but out there in the real world, what are you hearing from people. who do they blame? >> a pox on everybody's house. they are beginning to see president obama for the demagogue he has turned in to. he simply -- he was partisan in the last four years, but he has taken it to a whole new level i've is never seen from a president. the average american is seeing him over the top and really beginning to discount him a little bit in his rhetoric, but

let's be honest, they do see the congress as incompetent and not able to get their act together and put forth anything that looks like a plan. they blame both parties. whether both parties should be blamed or not is not the point. they are blaming both parties. right now, they are washing their hands on what is going in washington, d.c.. >> dana: certainly there were scare tactics used by the white house this parade of horribles was going to happen. it's not immediate, but it's not if there won't be any effects. i heard from people that work in the defense department or the military. what do you think both parties should do to try to reassure them they were going to get things back in order? what can be done in the next 30 days before a possible government shutdown when the budget runs out? >> the? >> the simple thing to do is work with the president to allocated resources into areas

where there is need. part of that has to be a restructuring of the absolute amount of money that is coming out of the defense department. we are already exacting pain out of that department. we are in downward trend. to squeeze more of that in a is not going to be a good thing for the defense department for our security. i would lessen the amount in defense and move it over, maybe do entitlement reform. maybe look at obamacare. one of the things that is being talked about across the country is potentially delaying obamacare. they are not ready to implement. there are things, plenty of money around washington, d.c. to do the things that are absolute sewing things and lots of ways to get to it. >> dana: senator, there has been a lot of criticism about republicans especially from the right that you have caved in all these issues leading up to this

particular financial crisis, but in this particular case with the sequester, do you think the republicans had a better strategy. they did put forward legislation to try to get it done but do you think it was a turning point for them? >> i think they have to feel better about themselves in two ways. they did put forth and alternative. they did pass things that would have averted horrible cuts of essential services, willing to work on the senate side. mitch mcconnell is willing to work with the president to reshift priorities. the message was clear. i'm not too sure it got through too well, but the message was clear. one of the things sometimes you have to do is sort of take a step back and let the president go out and do what he did was overplay his hand. they did. they were smart and success on their message that we're sticking to our guns. we need these cuts. we need more than these cuts.

we need to do them smartly and that is what we're going to stick with. >> dana: senator, great to. thanks for being with us. some g.o.p. lawmakers warn the campaign sales tactics are poisoning relationships with the people that he needs to work with us. thanks for being with us tonight. you have been out on the west coast this week and you were talking to people outside the beltway in the republican party. what do you hear from them. i know you also like to listen. what did you hear? >> i mean in regard to poisonous relationships. i don't think the president has any ability to work with the republicans because he just doesn't seem willing to get the job done to bring people in, to exhibit the leadership that he needs to solve our country's worse problems. what i hear from people is that washington is broken.

that this is president isn't willing to lead. i also hear from people, our party has to get bigger and broader and bring people in. we have to smile more. we have to sell more and we have to in communities. >> we have so to smile more. that is treajdz thing to suggest -- just kidding. what about the moist thousands piece of it. i worked in chilly in 1994 and 1995 during a government shutdown. at that time most members of congress said twos the worst they had ever seen congress in years. taking the "wall street journal," columnist says something has changed, a line has been crossed. does it feel that way in washington? >> now, i think so republicans learned a pretty good lesson this week.

the president overhyped this thing electing like y 2 q, he couldn't back up his -- y2k ands president's bluff. we're not talking about a massive cut here in spending. we're talking about a minor cut in the growth of spending. i think our country wants to see us get serious about spending and i think the party learned a good lesson to stand up to the president, being very clear offering solutions to problems. at the end of the day if the president isn't willing to lead and anything he is interested in campaigning earnings this we have to stick together and show the american people that we're not going to drive this country into the ground. >> dana: one of the things i have seen from democrats and even just outside of the party politics, from the left is that

we actually don't have a spending problem. this is a new talking point. just looking at the polls, actually one thing americans can agree on, they think the government spends too much money. is eight winning message to be the dentist rather than the sugar man when it comes to the debate? >> that is line. >> dana: did i steal that line from you? >> that is what i've been saying. they are the sugar and we are the dentist. one of the problems as a party, that we want to work on presidential elections, we can't be the national dental party. we're good at the math. >> dana: nothing against dentists. >> no, we're good at the, but we've got get better in getting into people's hearts and have to relate these problems to people's lives. we have to talk about the education of people's children, giving choices to people's

children, making colleges affordable, getting better paying jobs for people that live the american dream. this is all things that this president, while he talks a good game sneeshghd willing to deliver. i know that ofa, wants to buy a little advertising and muddy up the waters again, if the president wants that, we'll give it to him. we have a country that is in serious need of leadership. again, this president is not capable of leading. good campaigner, but not willing to lead at our worst and at least most critical times in our history. >> dana: it's not as if the sequester won't have impact. it will. it may be felt slowly. in some ways today, you have to think that the white house is kind of hoping that some of the things that they said will come true. >> they are going to play it up.

just be prepared them looking for the worst case scenarios and even allowing some of it to take place in order to score political win. i don't think it's past this president to do that. i'm sure he will. he is pretty good at it. here is the thing. if the standard in this country -- here is what the details are saying and what the liberals are saying. they are saying that the standard in this country has to be, that the standard in this country that we can't reduce the size of government without raising taxes. think about that. if that is the standard and we can't reduce the size of government without raising taxes we are on road to nowhere because we can raise the taxes up to hundred percent that makes over $100,000 and you would run the government about 35 days. its standard that is false and standard that the republicans have to take a stand on. i for one think there is no other choice than let the

sequester go through. let the size of government shrink a tiny bit down the road. >> dana: last question for you -- how do you help then the people in the party connect the dots between a government that republicans think is too big and what is happening to them at home where maybe somebody is unemployed or underemployed, your 20-year-old is living in your basement. i working about energy price and food prices, how can republicans connect the dots? >> this is a good case the republicans have to be on the same page, right? i think on simple things like spending, up coming budget that is going to take place, balancing our budget within a ten-year period, having very simple neajs we all agree on and leveraging what we have. we don't have the white house but leadership, our senators and

congressmen, we have to say the same thing over and over again. the next thing our party has to be much more granular, we need people in communities on a year round basis and we are in permanent politics, four-month before an election political operation. we have to be out there year round in the communities saying the same thing. >> dana: don't forget your best advice, smile! all right. thanks so much. >> first responders, teachers, air traffic controllers, massive layoffs are some of the doomsday predictions, but what if the sky doesn't fall? what happens to the credibility of the white house? and rick cline joins us, congratulations on your promotion this week? >> thank you. >> dana: let he ask you, did the white house overplay their hand in this debate?

>> i think you realize they went too far in the rhetoric. he had to back off a little bit. it's going to take time to crick will in. what the administration was saying few days, we're going on to have more forest fires, nuclear wasteland and untranslated intercepts from terrorists but none of which is going to happen immediately. the president has a lot riding of feeling these budget cuts very quickly. >> dana: what do think the republicans messaging can be in the next couple of weeks. you saw mitch mcconnell and john boehner saying we're not going to be part of a back room deal. and then president obama backing off and trying to place the blame of impact squarely on them. do you think in this case, it's not that anybody won but everybody lost? >> i think it's bad for everyone

in washington. think i an important development today was republicans taking the shutdown off the table. we want to fight over the budget cuts. we don't want to have a fight over a government shutdown, but republicans have been split. you have defense hawks these cuts are going to be terrible and on the other hand you have a lot of deficit hawks saying we need to take a bite out of government. you will see that message being honed and big battle whether we need, people are willing to see cutbacks in services. >> dana: let me ask something, do you think the atmosphere in washington is so poisonous at this point they can't put politics aside? >> this is as bad as i have seen it. it's worse when they are not trying to negotiate something. we are used to mid need deadlines and they would be talking. president went out there today, there is no reason for me too keep these guys around.

we're not going to get anywhere. maybe everybody needs to take a nap. if you look at the sides are staked, about revenues, about where the budget cuts can come from, i don't see see where they come to the table. i can see the sequester cuts being baked into the next budget resolution and maybe they are actually going to be the law of the land for a while. >> dana: if you could talk about another relationship where there is tension between the press corps. he said this earlier today. >> the president doesn't like the washington press corps and i think it's mutual in certain respects. there is not a great relationship between them and the president. a lot of the president's advisors are frustrated they feel they don't get the credit they deserve for the willingness to compromise they see on the president's end they do not see

reciprocated. >> i understand that tension very well. i don't think ever called and yelled at you. >> not so much. >> there was one person i remember. do you think this is a problem that is parallel to the one that has happened between the white house and the members of congress. is there underlying tension that even deeper than what we've realized between the press and the white house? >> it's an intleeg go question because the press gets accused of being too close to president obama. there has been a particularly close relationship since the beginning of this white house. it's hard to compare the previous white houses. we want more access and told more what is going on. i do think we are now in a permanent campaign cycle. the white house operates like this and other side operates it and people are fighting it out in visceral second by second and

tensions boil up. >> dana: rick, thank you so much. straight ahead, disturbing new information about the illegal immigrants that were released on to our streets. is the problem worse than we thought? also, long security lines and flight delays. the obama sounding the alarm about the sequester's impact on the piavpt. arnold schwarzenegger has a new job. hollywood, sacramento. stay tuned and find out. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete.

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>>. >> dana: tonight, new details about the release of illegal immigrants. associated press revealing that it's higher than we first thought and higher than what the obama administration says. alicia wrote the story and i wanted to ask, my experience with the press, aprael rarely gets the story wrong. you have to be pretty sure to question the associated press when it comes to that. but that is what happened to you. can you tell me what the original reports was and what i.c.e. said you got wrong.

>> tuesday we reported there were release from immigration jail. white house said a few hundred, i said several hundred. we pursued different stories on that. on wednesday i found out that gary who is in charge of removal operations announced his retirement from the department to his staff on tuesday afternoon, several hours after the department acknowledged, yes, we made these releases. department said eishtd a statement that the story was inaccurate and misleading. we followed up today with news that in fact there were ultimately more than 2,000 releases from detention centers across the country. i reviewed a budget document that i had planned additional releases, up to 3,000 in the next several weeks. approximately a thousand a week through the end of march.

i'm told essentially at this point it has stopped as the department said today. i.c.e. issued a statement saying they don't anticipate additional releases but with the sequester in place things could change depending on what the financials are ultimately. in terms of the accuracy, i stand by my story. i stand by mr. meade noug his retirement after the acknowledgement. the report surfaced monday evening and things progressed on tuesday. and the issue gained considerable traction among republican lawmakers and others questioning exactly what happened, how it what happened, why it happened and ultimately who made decisions, some of those questions have not been answered yet at as far as i'm aware. >> dana: another interesting part of the story to me, when

the white house and department of homeland security, they said they didn't know anything about it. don't you find that unusual. nobody would be told they were going to release people that were being detained for immigration violations and no one runs it up the flagpole? >> i obviously don't work with the department and i wasn't involved in meetings or in the food chain as information came out. i can only report what i.c.e. has said, what the white house has said and what the secretary napolitano of who knew what, when. i have been able to report what i know. it should be noted in this progression, he announced his retirement in the process of these things being discussed. in terms of who made those decisions, certainly we've asked

the questions. i can only say the department has said what it said that the decisions were made by career officials in the field. certainly, that is what the white house has said as well. >> dana: it made for interesting timing and quite a coincidence. i appreciate the reporting and my experience with a.p. they always get it right. >> dana: now to an update on the mysterious death of a million dollar lottery winner. chicago man died last summer days to collect his winnings, today they ruled the man died of cyanide poisoning. confirming an earlier finding. body was exhumed last month and coroner tried to find out how it was ahead ministered. so far no one has been charged with the homicide. coming up, controversy on campus, harvard newspaper

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>>. >> dana: we've heard the warnings from the obama administration that the sequester will cause chaos at the nation's airports.

griff jenkins went to reagan national airport to find out. >> reporter: now that it's finally here, everybody is wondering how it's going to impact their lives. one place to certainly expect changes, airports across the country to customs processing to air traffic control. the administration says the consequences will be dire, cancelled flights and long security lines, they are going to get longer. but republicans say most of this amounts to nothing more scare tactics. we came here to reagan national airport to find out how travelers are dealing with the news. >> i'm not fazed. i don't think it's going to be mean much in the long run. >> didn't change your plans? >> not even a little. >> it's going to get worse. i travel pretty frequently. >> reporter: frequent business trafficer then? >> yes, i am. we're going to have build this

into the equation for the short term. >> i think we're all frustrated. all americans are. it's going to be amount of time before we begin to see the consequences of it. >> well, today, no, because day one i knew there wouldn't be any immediate changes but in the next couple of weeks it will change. >> in when you are traveling a month from now, you will probably come earlier. >> reporter: we're talking to the passengers and we noticed you coming through. are you concerned about sequestration and airport delays? >> i am, we all are. >> reporter: do you happen to come any earlier because you thought the delays might be earlier? >> i think i will start coming earlier starting monday morning mo rng. >> sequestration? >> i never heard of it. >> reporter: they said because of budget cuts, they are going to cut across the agencies and longer delays? >> i'm not worried about it. i think they could do away with

all the security. >> reporter: there you go. perhaps an idea for chilly lawmakers. we reached out to the tsa but no one was available for comment. they issued us this statement, if sequestration goes into effect, tsa will put into place a hiring freeze that will result up to an additional vacancies and up to 2600 vacancies by the end of the fiscal year. we expect busy travel periods, wait times could double in all of the major airports. >> dana: thanks so much. it looks like people are worried bit but only time will tell if there is any real impact. harvard university paper that has a message for conservatives -- don't apply to harvard. they benefit from the school's prestige and then later slam the school gaining political points.

is that the popular opinion on campus. they accuse the newspaper staff of being anti-free speech harvard liberals and call for more discourse on campus. robert swava joins us. i think a college where everybody agrees on everything would be a boring place to go, don't you? >> yes. sadly enough that is the situation no matter what college you want to go to, you have a liberal majority at virtually every college and harvard certainly among them. they were attempting to creates site certain conservatives mitt romney and senator ted cruz and they ended up saying conservatives shouldn't microto come to harvard. i can't think anything more against free speech and the

values that harvard and any other students newspaper would profess or so important. they end up denigrating those values. >> dana: when i was reading this story, in president george bush's book, he tells about a story when he got accepted into the harvard business school. he wasn't sure whether to go or not. he went to dinner with his dad, i think you should consider it because it will open up your horizons. i don't know if that is when he was thinking about when it comes to the crimson stuff. >> as you alluded to, the commentators on of the article which i assume are students at harvard and probably liberal ended up saying the student newspaper was totally wrong and being whiny, people that disagree with us, they were trying to score partisan political points and trying to castigate conservatives. that is their mentality.

it happens when you have a bunch of people in a group who all think the same thing. it tends to end up being a team mentality. even if they are not purposely doing it, not just conservative but libertarian and moderate views as well. >> dana: you know this as a journalist, you open yourself up to criticism. you have to grow a fairly thick skin if you want to survive. i think these students were being a little naive to begin with. do you think there is a larger movement to try to quiet conservatives from speaking up? >> yes, it's really been going on for a long time. again, not just conservatives but really viewpoints that don't agree with orthodox liberalism which is won the day on college campuses. it really has been the predominant expression of political thought not just at

harvard but everywhere. higher ed is going through so many difficult changes in the future with the cost is so out of whack. you have massive online courses are going to disrupt some of the traditional higher education, maybe less people will be going to college campuses ten to 20 years from now and it may disrupt some of the political activity that has been so one-sided. other than that, i don't see why it would change more conservatives coming to campus. libertarian students are making some inroads i think. >> dana: it's a great time to be able to talk to everybody and hash about and go have a beer afterwards. thank you so much. coming up, a injured war veteran gets on major leagues. he is here to tell his story.

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>> dana: a major league comes true. he lost his leg in xom bat tried out for the los angeles dodgers. he got a special invitation from a former manager, tommy lasorda. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> dana: tell me, how did this all happen? >> it all happened through the california disabled veterans business alliance. i met more lasorda through him and was introduced to him as a disabled veteran baseball player. he said can you hit a baseball. and then you are try out for the dodgers. >> dana: they said they weren't

going to give you any special thing or no passes, you had to play just like everybody else? >> yes, they made that clear. i understood and i agreed there was no preferential treatment. it was just me out there doing my own thing. >> dana: tell me, any of the thoughts that ran through your he'd. did you ever think that would possibly happen especially after you sacrificed for your country? >> i honestly didn't think it would happen. yesterday was dream come true, not just the child of me, but as a leader with the disabled veterans around the nation varis that i've been a part of. i am currently a part of and freedom team and baseball now. so yesterday i was just out there and i was a little nervous and i told myself, i survived the war. i can come out here and play

baseball. this is no different. >> dana: you went through 49 surgeries or 50 surgeries after the battle that you were in. did you feel any physical limitations or is the prosthetic such that it gives you a chance to do something like this? >> yes. there was no limitations i placed on myself. a lot of people tried to place limitations but after eight months of recovery, i decided to amputate my leg. it was my decision and to get out there and continue moving on. >> dana: tell me more about vet sports. this is the organization that you are with. are you finding for veterans that are coming back and transitioning back to civilian life or now based back in the united states, is sports something that they miss while they were overseas and decided

to come back and do something that gets them physically out there and help this to clear the mind? >> yes. i mean everybody thinks of their favorite teams while they are deployed. i missed a little bit of the cleveland indians baseball season when i deployed. >> dana: i know you love the cleveland indians. >> yes. i'm a big fan of the dodgers and what they are doing. everybody talks about sports and childhood dreams and playing college sports. now this is an opportunity for everybody to come back, whether they have a physical disability or any other sort of disability. now we are out there and we're letting everybody pursue their dreams and get back on the field. >> dana: congratulations to you and thank you for your service. >> and thank you. >> dana: straight ahead. why is leonard nimoy, that is the actor who played spock part

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